reply time! Bird, you are not explaining to me how these plugins are imperfect. And I'm actually quite confused on how you are commenting on the state of the staff. Last time I heard, staff members are supposed to comply despite how much they really want to do something else (it's their job, right?). By saying that staff are simply not going to have enough time to do whatever they want because people are reporting grief seems very, very, very out of place if a server like this has good staff. While LogBlock helps with individual blocks, CoreProtect logs WE changes and allows you to revert WE's, unlike LB. You say it can't cause harm, are you even considering the cons here? By saying any rank, even pre-trial and post-trial should have WE, you are basically giving STRANGERS a LAG TOOL. I'm not saying that WE doesn't help in building, because it surely does. HOWEVER, there are pretty sick-minded people on the internet, especially in child-oriented communities like Minecraft. By giving WE only to those who have proved themselves to be great builders and companions, you are giving WE to those who DESERVE it. Oh, and your comment about the buildcontest seems a bit irrelevant, beacuse you are only stating how it helped you. You are not backing up how this would help the creative server, besides saying that it is a build tool that allows for efficiency. Think about the ranks below yours. You are imposing a one-sided POV here by not finishing my quote in that sentence. I said that Nick can choose to make a gallery world displaying the BC winners. I never JUST said that it has nothing to do with the BC's. Also, you are lacking explanations behind your statements, again. And once again, you disagree but you don't consider the pros. I feel that you are not completely understanding me, or you are just skipping across my message to anything that seems like I'm disagreeing to you (I feel a bit offended if the later is true). The original idea behind the prestige world is to show off the best of the best, but free of any risks of grief that may occur in the preceding world. You are basically stating what I'm stating, but you are limiting the freedom of the ones who deserve recognition. You are taking one idea and replacing it with something irrelevant in the first place. Your idea of gallery (displaying good builds/BC winners) is different from my idea of a prestige world (a non-plot, natural landscape world free of post-trial builds/griefing that can be built upon with builds that exceed expectation). Until you give me valid reasons on why a prestige world is non-beneficial besides this (rude) commenting on why yours is better, I'm going to continue to disagree with your statements. We can go all night if you wish. I don't disagree with the gallery at all. You are actually shunning my idea of a prestige world with a lack of explanation, and that makes me feel offended too. Why don't you argue both sides next time you decide to disagree with me? Consider and describe the pros, and state how the cons are more important, vice versa. If you are encouraging the collection of tokens in order to advance, you are basically suggesting P2W. Now, now, now, I know you can get tokens by voting, but by requiring someone to obtain tokens by voting or donating is basically P2W. A person should be able to have access to unlimited tries until they get it right. We have to consider all skill groups if we talk Minecraft server. Now, P2W definitely benefits the server, mostly because you either A) profit from a donation for tokens or attract a greater audience via voting. But think about being in a lower-skilled builder's shoes. You wouldn't want to vote EVERY SINGLE TIME you want another shot at trials. I wouldn't at least. Hey, I want unlimited plots too. However, I suggested a hard limit because it completely eliminates the threat of what you just said, "unnecessary plot claiming." You are actually self-incriminating yourself, if you haven't noticed. I don't know if you know this, but there is really no way to track whether or not a plot is finished w/o manual staff labor. One can simple /plot finish and /plot auto until they have gone through dozens of plots. Now, if your concern is whether or not you will have enough time to do what you want on the server, I suggest you don't argue w/ me. No, it's not clear to me. It's not clear at all. Until you consider the cons about WE (grief by mass destruction, grief by mass placing, lag) then I will not get your statement. Also, by saying things like "as good as me" is very selfish, even if you don't see it. You are ONLY thinking about yourself and your equivalents (staff builders and people who actually use WE correctly). Listen to what I have to say- WE, while it is huge for efficiency and I would DEFINITELY love to see it, poses a threat that in worst case scenarios require map backups to roll back. Not everyone knows how to use WE correctly, and there's a percentage of people who know how to use it for evil. There are people that actually have to deal with grief (staff and victim) when it happens, and you are not recognizing this. Oh, and I did not say that last quote. Bird, you need to think about why you are disagreeing with me in the first place, rather than saying that your idea is better than mine and shunning it. You need to recognize the pros that I try to bring to this creative server vision. You are not doing this. I find it rude and offensive.